“It’s completely unrealistic to believe that political leaders are literally going to lead us through this out of their own volition. It’s going to need to be driven by popular demand! And that is why we think of this being about the deepening of the climate majority.”
“If you let people learn climate science as humans and then talk to each other and let emotions into the room, a huge percentage of those people will change what they want to do with their lives.”
Liam Kavanagh and Rupert Read join the Wicked Problems podcast. Listen to it here.